Ok, I'm on my first playthrough of Fallout New Vegas. While Hardin, in my opinion, would charge in head first against a Legendary Deathclaw for a simple laser pistol that is hanging around its neck like a dog tag without thinking once and even if he got it he would find out its broken. so i wanted to pick the best out come for the brother of steel but i want to know that if i help hardin will it be good or is he another worthless elder? Head Paladin Hardin OR Elder Nolan McNamara? If you decided to oust Elder McNamara in the quest “Still in the Dark,” Edgar Hardin will become the new Elder. So I did the Still in the Dark quest, and helped Hardin become the new elder, and now I continued with the For the Republic 2 quest, and Moore wants me to destroy the BoS. I understand that if I left McNamara in charge, the truce option would've been available, and now with Hardin in charge, it seems that I'm pretty much ♥♥♥♥ed. Given by: Elder McNamara [Hidden Valley] (M13B:1). ... For helping Hardin overthrow McNamara: 1000 XP Brotherhood Safehouse Key Brotherhood of Steel Fame: View Full-size. For Fallout: New Vegas on the Xbox 360, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "McNamara or Hardin? ; For the Republic, Part 2: There is a way to oust McNamara and have a peaceful … Im Currently playing New Vegas and have nearly finished the 'Still in the Dark' Quest. ; Tend to Your Business: Hardin, after becoming the new elder, asks the Courier to kill all of the Van Graffs in Freeside to prove their loyalty to the Brotherhood. I continued with McNamara however, and after completing Still in the Dark he removes the lockdown anyway. Still in the Dark: During this quest, Hardin asks the Courier to help him remove Elder McNamara from power so he could become the new Elder. Camp McCarran (Part 2) Vault 11 and Vault 3. Definitely liking it so far. or become a better elder. Is there any benefit to giving it to one of them over the other? Located southeast of Sloan, the Hidden Valley has four bunkers, one being the Brotherhood of Steel. For Fallout: New Vegas on the Xbox 360, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Hardin or McNamara". I picked Mcnamara because he lets you be a paladin anyway, and you can make a truce.Icommandoxx 13:09, April 20, 2011 (UTC) Hardin is pointless, they each give you one more mission, but afterwards with McNamara at least you don't have to kill them all.Pappy002 00:20, April 21, 2011 (UTC) I work for Mr. House, so I killed them all. Still in the Dark (Part 2) Fallout: New Vegas. Quests. Speak with Edgar Hardin in the Hidden Valley Bunker. In order to talk to Elder McNamara, you have to visit one of the bunkers (M13:1).When you reach the bunker you will meet a Brotherhood Paladin #1.You will have to give away all your weapons and items and go to the [L1].Go downstairs and talk to … pleas tell me witch i should pick thanks. In case you didn't read the title of this post, SPOILERS BELOW So, I started working on both the I could make you care and Still in the dark quests simultaneously. BUT! So I want to know if there is any advantage to choosing Hardin over McNamara, will any quests change, will the Brotherhood attack HELIOS, etc. My question is, who should I give the tapes to, Elder Mcnamara or Head Paladin Hardin? or whatever. or should i help McNamara will he continue to put the bunker in lock down? McNamara will be demoted to a Knight and will now be seen working in the Brotherhood workshop. ". Still in the Dark will be marked as completed, and Hardin will become the Elder of the Brotherhood. Edit: thanks for all the responses. I have also heard people talk about if you give it to Hardin you dont get to keep Veronica as a companion? Under Hardin's rule, the Brotherhood will try to stop its isolationist tendencies and increase their influence outside of the Hidden Valley bunker. - posted in New Vegas Spoilers: hi. McNamara is more thoughtful and takes careful steps to make sure his people wont be in harms way. With Still in the dark, I was ignoring the optional points to get Elder McNamara ousted.Specifically, I did the following: